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points by AnimalMuppet 8 hours ago | hide | 0 comments
Two things can both be true. The left was also firing professors. They weren't arresting people for publicly disagreeing with them; they were just showing up as "black block"/antifa and trying to physically intimidate them.

Neither side are angels. Neither side really believe in your free speech if you disagree with them.

Now, if you want to argue that the right is currently the greater threat, then sure, I can probably agree with that. The two sides try to push the other around when in power, and play the victim when out of it, and the right is currently in power. And they're currently more aggressive than I ever saw the left be. Still, the left isn't really the side of free speech either.

bryanlarsen8 hours ago | | | parent | | on: 47772667
> Neither side really believe in your free speech

Only one side claimed to be "free speech absolutists".

coldtea7 hours ago | | | parent | | on: 47772873
Which makes them hypocrites.

But a hypocrite that pays lip service to free speech might be better than someone who openly doesn't care for it. At least the principle remains respected.

AnimalMuppet7 hours ago | | | parent | | on: 47772950
Meh. The principle remains "respected" with lip service. That's not respecting the principle; that's respecting the principle's ability to persuade people to vote for you.

I mean, look, there are conservatives who actually do care about free speech for everyone, not just their allies. But the "conservatives" currently in power, who claimed to be "free speech absolutists", seem more interested in control of speech as a source of power, rather than in actual free speech for all.

boxed7 hours ago | | | parent | | on: 47772873
Cherry picking. The other side claimed to be the only ones to care about "black lives" while at the same time supporting burning down black owned businesses, and spreading covid during the worst of the pandemic, while being super angry about the people who didn't wear masks.

Don't fall into the trap of grouping into left/right. Individual behaviors must be judged separately: going into crowded spaces unmasked during the high of covid? Bad. Burning down a business? Bad. Getting someone fired for speech? Bad. Etc.

See how easy and clear that is? Nothing about left or right.