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Italo Calvino: A traveller in a world of uncertainty(historytoday.com)
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kelseyfrog4 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725403
If on a Winter’s Night a Traveller gives the reader the impression that there must be a system at play and gives up some of its secrets easily. However, there remains a persistent feeling, after reading each section, that there are other connections - threads of deliberate meaning - between them all that slip through your fingers as you desperately try to clutch more and more fragments passing by.

It's one of my favorite books precisely because it generates this feeling and led me to Perec's Life: A User's Manual among other fantastic works.

_aavaa_4 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725958
You will likely enjoy this discussion of Calvino’s work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI16Txc7x1s
kelseyfrog4 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47726643
Definitely! That's what kicked off my interest :)
dang4 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47726643
Also mentioned here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35197000 (March 2023)

windowliker4 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725958
>[...] and led me to Perec's Life: A User's Manua

For people who may be unfamiliar with this (excellent) connection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oulipo

ghstinda4 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725958
It is also one of my favorite books. Magical writing.
dang4 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725403
Related. Others?

The Timeless Magic of Italo Calvino's Invisible Cities at 50 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43511876 - March 2025 (1 comment)

The Human Reader: Italo Calvino foresaw generative AI’s necessary companion - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35764984 - April 2023 (1 comment)

The Worlds of Italo Calvino - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35178426 - March 2023 (47 comments)

What would it be like if Italo Calvino and Sun Tzu explained refactoring? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35150753 - March 2023 (3 comments)

Italo Calvino, The Art of Fiction No. 130 (1992) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26395898 - March 2021 (28 comments)

The Penguin Book of Oulipo review – writing, a user's manual - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21869669 - Dec 2019 (2 comments)

Italo Calvino, The Art of Fiction No. 130 (1992) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21340794 - Oct 2019 (29 comments)

The Movies of My Youth - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10151334 - Sept 2015 (5 comments)

Cybernetics and Ghosts (1967) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9001508 - Feb 2015 (1 comment)

simonsarris4 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725403
As a fan of Calvino I will say that If on a Winter’s Night a Traveller is somewhat more enjoyable after you've read a bunch of other Calvino, since it has a somewhat cheeky, self-referential feel and the more you sympathize with the author the more you may like it.

Numbers in the Dark is very good as a place to start.

SubGenius4 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47726189
Marcovaldo, Cosmicomics, Difficult Loves are my favorite. Baron in the Trees too.

I'd definitely suggest starting with these. His short story work is beautiful.

pimeys3 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47727095
The Baron in the Trees is mentioned so rarely always, but it was one of the most influential books of my youth. A fantastic read.
amarcheschi3 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47727095
In italian high schools you learn to hate a lot of what you do, just because you're a student and can't be bothered to enjoy an analysis of some themes - then when you're a bit older you start to appreciate what you hated much more
mcphage3 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47727095
Invisible Cities is my absolute favorite of his short stories.
kgwgk3 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47727095
> Cosmicomics

Damn Qfwfq.

atombender3 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47726189
I absolutely loved Invisible Cities, but I couldn't get more than a couple of chapters into If on a Winter's Night. The first pages are very evocative, but it gets really repetitive with nothing to "progress" the "plot".

My impression (possibly mistaken) is that it's a product of its time that was innovative, but hasn't aged that well. More a fun puzzle box than something with emotional weight.

Given the above, what other Calvino work might appeal more to someone like me?

sgwizdak4 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725403
Great article - "Invisible Cities" was my introduction to his work and remains a favorite.
riffraff3 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725777
It's my favorite work of literature, I have gifted it to a bunch of people over the years and most have appreciated it too.

You are bound to find at least one city that will stay with you.

mcphage3 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725777
I’m here for the Invisible Cities fan club!
OhMeadhbh4 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725403
Reminds me of this linked in profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julien-de-foucauld-0b1323287/
MrBuddyCasino3 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725403
Only read Path To The Spider‘s Nest so far, had no trouble finishing it. Rare these days. Recommend!
Rant4232 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725403
recommendations:

* Our Ancestors (The Cloven Viscount, The Baron in the Trees, The Nonexistent Knight)

* The Complete Cosmicomics (Cosmicomics, t zero, + others)

* Invisible Cities

* If on a winter's night a traveler

xhevahir3 days ago | | | parent | | on: 47725403
I've never been able to get into Calvino. Those works of his that I've read mostly felt like games and puzzles, sterile mental exercises, or inconsequential fantasy.